Hi everyone, Just wanted to mention that a new plugin for the iPhone (portrait) is on it's way. The plugin comes with the source files (installable plugin) and you can download the graphics at www.bt-addons.com. I wonder what you think of this?? How much should this plugin cost (included with the graphics)? screenshots and more: http://www.bt-addons.com/the-plugins/the-design-menu.html Best Regards, Danny www.bt-addons.com

Awesome @Danny! Where do I throw my money? One suggestion is to make sure you also include PSD files? Price: 4.99 - 5.99 is good, I'm starting to think myself that I can purchase 3-4 plugins rather then 1 with a 7.99 - 8.99 pricetag (if that makes sense?) But ultimately up to you! What is your time worth? ;) Heel goed gedaan! Cheers, David buzztouchmods.com

looks great 7.99 is super cheap but like mrdavid said is up to you congrats for your new plugin keep them coming

i know how much time goes into a plugin like this, so i would have to say in the 4-6 $ price range.

Looks wonderful! well its a tough call. the plugins are buy once and receive free updates and unlimited use for buzztouch apps. Whatever price you make it will be purchased because it is a very nice feature. One question, did I see you mention in a post that you were working on something to allow menu items/buttons to be arranged in whatever type of position that you want on a screen? say for example: first button in the middle and the next row two buttons centered? If so, is that a part of this plugin or extra? Sorry if I forget, my memory has been failing me as of late :)

Looks awesome Danny! If it were for Android, I would definitely purchase it. Unfortunately, something like a menu needs to be on both iOS and Android before I can consider it. If it was cross-platform, I'd pay a good sum for it.

Nice Plug-in. Definitely gives that professional look to it!

Buzz Touch Plugins are RIDICULOUSLY CHEAP! You buy a plugin and you can use it on unlimited projects. WOW In my opinion, getting complex solutions for permanent use for the price of a cup of coffee seems like a STEAL. Look, I'm no coder, so maybe it's relative, but plugins that make things simple in a WYSIWYG manner are GOLD, seriously if I thought a Plugin would help me do what I want to do for clients regularly, in both Android and Apple, I'd pay $100 for it without hesitation.

So true! Buying a plugin is like buying time. If a plugin met my need well and saved me several hours of work, I wouldn't hesitate to spend $50 to $100 on a plugin.

I need to start re-pricing my plugins ASAP! LOL. David buzztouchmods.com

mrdavid your not only making bank your also helping a lot of users waiting for your last plugin the more money you make the more motivation you get to write more plugins

@st726 Gotcha - I get it! My plugins are still in review - no worries. The problem is, and what I think buzztouch is going towards (and correct me if I'm wrong david/stephen) is that if we keep plugins more towards the 10 dollar or under range, old (and more importantly, new) users that come to buzztouch will have the opportunity to use my plugins on thier first app, making it awesome with a wide range of different plugins/screens/features, without dropping $500 on 5 plugins! We'll scare everyone new away! I know I wouldnt have take a second glance if I saw that on any other site as a beginner making my first app, not even knowing if it would get approved or not, or if I could even understand how to get it done ;) I don't think that's what buzztouch is about at all. In the end, I'm sure there are some people in this world willing to spend $1000 on a plugin, and some only $1, but the biggest market I bet is towards what the market prices are now. Making $100 on one sale might be cool... but making 100 sales for $1 is even cooler knowing 100 people are using your plugin and making awesome apps with it! (which is a BIGGER motivation for me to make more, you know how cool that feels!?) Don't get me wrong, money is cool too :-) David buzztouchmods.com

Apps will be approved if the Plugins are good because the content will be good. There's a right price for any plugin - but right now I'm a new user trying to get an app built on what purports to be a CMS for apps, but it's NOT REALLY - because the plugins available don't make building apps easy - like they should be in a CMS system. The answer to your "put off" objection is simple - offer a money back guarantee if the plugin doesn't do what it should or the person can't get their app approved. I just want Buzz Touch to be what it promised me a true CMS - but my experience so far is that Buzz touch is for Coders Only, because unless you have the knowledge of a coder, the platform is hard to use. WRITE ME TRUE CMS PLUGINS and I'll pay you GOOD MONEY - Happily!!!

@mrdavid dont get me wrong i get the mastermind vision of the buzztouch team it makes a lot of sense nothing can beat that feeling i know like wen you see your app on the apple or android market @David_Mollet i dont want to star a fight or nothing here but with all the respect buzztouch is the cheapest and professional and easy way to make apps i tested all of the other app builder sites and they go crazy on the prices costumer service sucks,you get charge per download the only thing you get free is a simple html5 website you can easy make those kind of sites with jquery mobile or a template if you want your app to be submitted for you they charge you like 1000 bucks

@David_Mollet : Guess you missed this discussion by a NON CODER who has made over $20,000 with apps from buzztouch: http://www.buzztouch.com/forum/thread.php?tid=FCA851FE09B516B9C76519D Mark

Guys - I get what u r saying - I'm not arguing - I think Buzz Touch is great, all I said is that plugins are so cheap it's ridiculous, (which is good in many ways) and I also confess that I'm struggling trying to use it (maybe I'm super dumb) and yes I saw that Convo Go NW, that's one reason why i'm beating my head against the wall today - but as a non coder with a family to feed I'm finding it difficult and time consuming trying to use it and I would gladly pay more for better WYSIWYG functions that didn't require me to struggle with trying to edit in HTML etc to do what I want.

Hi @David_Mollet, There are absolutely some things that could be easier in buzztouch....and pretty much every other piece of software that exists on the planet. That Coffee Cup thing I referred you too...very popular software, but I can't use it because it doesn't work the way I do. The buzztouch HTML editor...works pretty well for me! Working in the IT business myself, I know each person out there has their own way of understanding things, and there's no way to develop for everybody. So, let's figure out the best way to help you work within buzztouch. In the end, despite the effort you'll eventually have to put into Eclipse and/or Xcode, I think you'll be amazed at what BT offers that others don't. The amount of work @David has done for us is second to none, and the work being done by plugin developers falls into the same category. I've tried lots of other services...I'll never leave BT. So, give Coffee Cup a shot. If it doesn't work, let me know, and we'll work together on finding another solution! Mark

Thanks - your very generous like most of the folk here

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Only 8 hours from Tucson to Vegas...you might find me there someday!

Hi all, Without going too much in detail in every post/discusion: thanks for your input. ofcourse the photoshop files will be included. In some cases you must use them to create you own images (based on what I created). Yep, takes a lot of time to develop - not only the code but also the graphics. I want it to be accessable for everyone so the price has to right. Not too cheap but also not too expensive. I think a startprice of $4,99 would be fine. What a lot of people don't consider is that the coder get 70%. In my case, of that 70% goes 21% off to Taxes/VAT/BTW. And after that I have to pay income taxes over the rest - so there isn't much left for the developer (per sale). That said I love to do it and love to hear the (nice)responses when I helped someone to create a good looking app. That's why I do this and if it can help to create a little income, that would be nice/super........ Thanks again. Best Regards, Danny

Heating up a bit. @David_Mollet has some great points here. For sure it's tough to hear legitimate criticism for us and our supporters but it's usually a good thing. The idea he's suggesting is that there is a difference between a CMS as it's traditionally understood, like Joomla, Drupal, WordPress and others and what buzztouch is. The claim we make that it's a "CMS For Mobile" is true, in a literal sense. But, it's not necessarily true when somebody is comparing it's feature's to a website Content Management System. Think of it this way, CREATING and AUTHORING content is an entirely different idea than making a high quality mobile app. We assume that somebody that wants to make a high quality app already has high quality content and doesn't expect their mobile app making tool to help them create this. This remark: "because the plugins available don't make building apps easy" is a little tough to understand and for sure it's a matter of opinion. Compared to what? Tens of thousands of folks disagree, literally. Using a web based control panel to add screens to an app doesn't get much easier. If somebody finds the buzztouch solution difficult to understand, they may consider hiring somebody to make an app for them? Of course we have a very long way to go regarding documents, videos, training, and other helpful resources but most would agree, it's pretty darned easy to do this when compared to just about any other solution. This one is completely off the mark: "offer a money back guarantee if the plugin doesn't do what it should or the person can't get their app approved." Do what is "should" is entirely subjective. If it doesn't do what it claims...that's another story. But do what it "should" or "get you approved" is unrealistic. Very very rarely does a plugin have anything to do with whether an app is "approved" unless of course it's broken or full of erros. We make no claims, nor do any developers, that our solution, tools, approach to making apps will increase or decrease anyones chances of being "approved" (which of course is an entirely Apple idea anyway) or rejected or rich or famous or on the front page of the NY Times. It's a pretty simple vision: We want every app in the world to begin at buzztouch.com - literally. Lofty goals - for sure. Attainable, we think so. On our way? Absolutely. We are ridiculously dedicated to this idea and we will eventually become the defacto standard way of starting a mobile app project. Write that on a little note somewhere and stick in on your desk. Re-visit it in a few years and smile - this will happen, we will be "the way" that apps begin. Overly confident? Maybe. Clear on our vision? Very. We work very hard at removing reasons why folks would NOT want to make their next app using buzztouch. In many cases (most cases possibly?) the final app project, that started at buzztouch.com, is very different from the app project that was downloaded from a users control panel. There will never be any way around this. The amount of customizing, tweaking, and engineering necessary after downloading a project can only be determined when all the details of the goal are known. We can't know this in advance. In many cases the app owners themselves don't know this until they near the end of their development. Providing the source code, 100% of it, in clear text, is the best approach to supporting this idea. An actual deliverable is hugely valuable and we think necessary to support this idea. So, to all those "defending" us, way to go and THANKS....but...some things to keep in mind... 1) Not everyone that uses buzztouch "gets it" and many will have a bad experience because they don't understand how it works, what we're trying to do and what the alternatives are. We wish this were not the case but it's unavoidable to some extent. 2) Not everyone that uses buzztouch understands what makes a high quality app. Super rich CMS tools that allow people to create ga-zillions of pieces of content, no matter how pretty, does NOT make a high quality app. 3) Not everyone that uses buzztouch should be making apps in the first place. The fact is, making high quality apps is tough, very tough in some cases. Lots of dreamers, get-done-in-5-minutes folks and others looking for no-work-required-shortcuts will almost always be dissatisfied with anything other than buying an app that's just DONE already. 4) We need folks to criticize us and our software. Genuine feedback, regardless of how negative, is always helpful. We can pick and choose what advice to ignore :-) We appreciate ALL perspectives and will continue to listen, adjust, improve, and lose sleep until it's mission accomplished. Slight breeze in the harbor tonight, went for a little sail earlier in the eventing. The harbor's WiFi is blazing fast so I hate to leave it. But, I'll be headed home soon after working through the latest plugin package. Night. d.

Danny, Any ETA on the release date of your plugin? BTW, It looks amazing. Great Work.

I think 5.99 - 7.99 will be affordable. Looking forward to see the new plugin in the market

Wow. I'm in. I have a bunch of 1.4 apps I need to rebuild on server and that will make them, and myself look really good... Almost like I actually do know what I'm doing! Buzztouch is bad ass (in the best possible sense)! Tim

Looks very good Danny... I cant wait to purchase.

BEAUTIFUL. Can't wait to see and use it. and if you ever get that rocking in Android....

@Danny, I almost forgot the 70% and didn't put that into account, I raised a few of my pending plugins just for that a few days ago when I learned how to use a calculator for the first time. You get hit hard by taxes mate, in that case, raise it up a few bucks, we understand. Your last line is priceless, I agree. Looking forward! Cheers, David buzztouchmod.com

Hi All, wow what a list!!! response to some questions: The release: I'm planning to finish everything before the end of next week (have a busy schedule but at least I'll try). Lot's of things needs to be done - writing manuals, maybe some videos, package all files to be an installable plugin. After that it goes to buzztouch and depending on the time to get this plugin approved it will be released. So stay tuned... Android: I get a lot of questions regarding a plugin version for Android. The way my plugins work can't be transfered to Android because there are so many different screen sizes. That's also why I emphasize that my plugins are only for iPhone in portrait view. You create layouts at a pixel perfect level (so you have to know for what screensize you are building). It's the lack of skills that I can't seem to find a way to create this for every screen size, and different rotations. But....it seems that a lot of users still find the plugin(s) very usefull. @mysps: yes it's true what you said. A button menu plugin with full control on the positioning of the buttons. I started working on that a while ago but changed my priority to some other plugins. I think they serve a greater community. But it's still on my list. Thanks all for your input and help. Hope you enjoy my results as my as I enjoy building them! Best Regards, Danny

It's going to be neat when somebody gets ahold of the index.php file in a plugin...makes a box on the screen the size of the iPhone and / or iPad, then a little palette of buttons to drag-n-drop on the screen. Javascript could easily allow this, with resizing, etc. The coordinates could be saved in the JSON (x, y, w, h) for each button. After adding them to the screen, by dragging and dropping, clicking a button could open a properties window to set image, title, what screen to load, etc. Hmm....seems like a HIT, any takers? :-)

Hi, @David: That would be a nice feature. You always make me laugh when you use the word "easy" :-) Best Regards, Danny