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05/25/12 04:24 PM (13 years ago)

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Hi Everyone! I have created a BT v 2.0 app that i'm almost ready to test out. I've signed up for an apple developer account and I have a godaddy account for my server and I am considering the 'self host' option with BT. There seems to be some conflicting buzz about how to successfully move everything over. My questions are these: 1. If I get a self hosted BT account and link it to my godaddy account what are the pros/cons and can my app be migrated over successfully (if someone has a guide that would be great!) 2. I'm very comfortable with the BT interface and it's my understanding that if I make a change there it will magically change in my app- what is the best server/account option to guarantee that? Any other thoughts/suggestions are welcome :)
 
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05/25/12 05:02 PM (13 years ago)
1. If I get a self hosted BT account and link it to my godaddy account what are the pros/cons and can my app be migrated over successfully Not easily. But it can be done (sort of) OK, it's easy but there's issues. 2. I'm very comfortable with the BT interface and it's my understanding that if I make a change there it will magically change in my app It's not magic, it's the Config file and the reportToCloudURL. (OK, It's magic) what is the best server/account option to guarantee that? A server is a server is a server. Just make sure it's a Linux LAMP server. Fred
 
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05/25/12 05:07 PM (13 years ago)
So Fred, what would you recommend I do as an app newbie. I want to keep it simple, make sure I dont loose my work so far, and make changes in the future by using BT. I know it's clear but my knowledge of hosting/servers etc is -1 on a 10 point scale!
 
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05/25/12 05:11 PM (13 years ago)
Depends how complete your app is. So many ways, but the best method will be specific to you. How many screens do you have? Why are you migrating? How willing are you to learn a bit about files? Fred
 
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05/25/12 05:29 PM (13 years ago)
Well your awesome if you can make it work...I have 500 screens and counting...I think the word 'migrating' might have been the wrong usage. I've got my app designed and i'm ready to launch it- just confused about the platform behind it. I consider myself a fast learner and have no problem learning about files (I've done all this app work in about 4 weeks
 
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05/25/12 05:46 PM (13 years ago)
how did you make 500 screens without being self hosted?
 
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05/25/12 06:02 PM (13 years ago)
I have to upgrade- that's the decision i'm making now
 
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05/25/12 06:04 PM (13 years ago)
ohhh so you can make as many screens as you want, its just you cant do anything until you upgrade if i hear you correctly?
 
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05/25/12 08:26 PM (13 years ago)
@Fred - "OK, it's easy but there's issues." What exactly does that mean, what are the issues, and how does Ashley overcome them?
 
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05/26/12 08:06 AM (13 years ago)
Migrating an App from the Buzztouch Control Panel is easy but comes with issues. "OK, it's easy but there's issues." What exactly does that mean: It's not easy if you don't know how, but it's easy if you do. Yes, I know how. I do, I do, I do. (Think Wizard of Oz.) What are the issues: Issues are: 1. You must take Online Config file off the Control Panel. How do you say, Dropbox. Or you could BYOS, (Bring Your Own Server). 2. Creating additional screens requires an understanding of the Config file. Best method to reach this understanding is to visit www.MySkylla.com and read Understanding the Config file. And how do you overcome them? Learn to take Online Config file off the Control Panel to Dropbox or BYOS, and to create additional screens using a text editor. But you say, "That's not easy". OK, you're correct, the best method is to cheat and use the tools found on my site.) Advantage of Dropbox: It's free to start with. Yes, you can upgrade (Just don't try upgrading from within an iOS app. Apple wouldn't like that.) Disadvantage BYOS: You're now an Administrator. Advantage of learning to create additional screens with text editor any MySkylla tools: Your now free to move about the Mobile App Development Environment. (Yes, I really did like that SouthWest commercial.) For assistance fell free to contact me. But as they explain here in Nashville when someone shouts a song title to the band: A suggestion, is merely a suggestion, which the band may not get around to and sometimes the band doesn't know the song, especially if it's a song frequently requested by tourist. But a request involves a donation (you know, the green kind, the ones with presidential faces), upon which it's amazing how band's memory will suddenly improve, and it just so happens that's the next song they're going to play because they love to play that song even though it's frequently requested. Fred
 
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05/26/12 11:24 AM (13 years ago)
That's not what she's asking about at all. She wants to move her app entirely, so it can be administered via a new BT Server that she wants to install, using the control panel as normal. She talking full migration of an app. All you're suggesting is moving the config file to somewhere else, which does nothing to address her issue. Migration of an app requires populating the target database with the same information as the source database (in this case buzztouch.com). This is not trivial. @David and the crew will eventually come up with a means to migrate for sure. Mark
 
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05/26/12 11:29 AM (13 years ago)
Eventually is nice. My method is here today. Which works better today or eventually. I dare say today is a solution, eventually is not. Fred
 
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05/26/12 11:33 AM (13 years ago)
But it's simply not a solution for the problem she has. I challenge you to show how your solution allows her to manage her app via the control panel in her new BT Server. All screens, all functionality, as if the app were created on that server. That's what she needs to do.
 
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05/26/12 11:42 AM (13 years ago)
What "needs to be done" is nice 500 screens off the Buzztouch.com Control Panel today, not eventually. The ability to manage it from a self-hosted Control Panel would be a nice feature. As I state in my post my method doesn't provide for that. Perhaps I'll have that tomorrow, but not today. I provide a solution today, albeit with issues as I note, but it's a solution. Have you got one today. If not, appreciate what there is, instead of pinning for what will be. Fred
 
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05/26/12 12:08 PM (13 years ago)
I never said I had a solution...I said the solution doesn't exist. Your solution is not the answer to the question she has. It's certainly the solution to another problem, but not to the question she asked. Done. Mark
 
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05/26/12 12:33 PM (13 years ago)
1. If I get a self hosted BT account and link it to my godaddy account what are the pros/cons and can my app be migrated over successfully Not easily. But it can be done (sort of) OK, it's easy but there's issues. Notice the (sort of). Your input solely consist of repeating with different words that which I state with two. Fred Hint: Go check out my localStorage post. It's something every Buzztouch user needs to read. Solution brought to you by ceerup and myself.
 
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05/26/12 01:29 PM (13 years ago)
Okay guys- I think i'm a little lost so let me ask another question. I have a BT 2.0 app created. I need to sell it in the itunes store (until I go droid), and would prefer to manage it from my BT control panel. What are my next steps lol.
 
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05/26/12 01:46 PM (13 years ago)
Join iOS developer program $99/yr Build binary Upload to iTunes. Hire Captain to take you to Bahamas to open offshore bank account. Fred Some how-tos in my site and on Buzztouch's How-To section.
 
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05/26/12 01:50 PM (13 years ago)
Fred, I've signed up for the developer account- they are in the process of verifying me...what do you mean 'binary' If I follow these steps can I manage my app through BT...if you know a captain i'll happily take a recommendation :P
 
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05/26/12 02:04 PM (13 years ago)
When you create a mobile app what you're doing is creating a binary that's installed onto a device Android: .apk iOS: .ipa BlackBerry: .bar You do so in Android by exporting a signed package. Read the how-to fit iOS in my site. Fred
 
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05/26/12 02:39 PM (13 years ago)
Hi Ashley, There's an illustrated, step-by-step in the How-To section of buzztouch that tells you how to create your binary and submit it to iTunes. It does use more than two words, but I think that's necessary in this instance. ;-) Mark
 

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