Hi All I am looking for an older iphone for testing the apps i make but I cannot find mention here of two things: 1. can you use any version? Iphone 1st gen through ? any generation ok? 2. can you use an iphone with wifi to download apps without having a plan? 3. I know the phone wont work but I wondered about using the Icall app for testing? I know Icall needs a phone number so someone said if you could find a sym card for any cell phone that works you could use Icall. Does anyone have a work around for this? I dont want to have to have a plan for both an android phone and iphone. Are some people testing on ipods and offline android phones and not testing the phone and text messages? This concerns me to test this way. Is there something I am missing about the simulators? Susanna

Hi Susanna, I don't think I would use anything earlier than an iPhone 3G for testing. I have one of those, which is now being used as an iPod, and it works fine. I can download and update apps via WiFi without a plan and without a SIM card. I don't think you need the iCall app...though I've never heard of it our used it. I also test on an iPad (first gen) and have people with iTouch loading some apps. Everything works well there. Mark

1. You need at least an iPhone 3Gs (Because it is an armv7, all before this were armv6). You need at least iOS 4.0 to test all of the features, but Apple wants all devs to test on iOS 5.1 (Or the latest version. 2. Yes 3. This app will not handle calls like Apple's "Phone" app I hope this helps. Jake

1. The original iPhone only runs to 3.1.3 I think. Think the 3G only goes to 4.2 so if you want the latest SDK to test on avoid them. 2. Yes, you can indeed. 3. Have no idea about iCal. Hope that helps, sorry about answer 3!

3 answers in the space of a minute, there you go!

@MacApple & @GoNorthWest We are all in the top 25 BT users.

True that- I just use my iPod 4G (as it is Retina), and my iPad 2.

@Jake..I think that it's we're all uber geeks for spending so much time on this forum! ;-)

I use 3G (not so much anymore), 4, 4s, iPad 1, 2, and soon 3. Once I did not test on all of them, and my app crashed on all armv6 devices.

@GoNorthWest I believe so

Hoping to 'expense' new iPad soon. Fingers crossed.

I spend a bit of time on another forum but that one and BT are the only ones I check and post to. 18 months on here, 6 yrs on the other. I also get out in the garden weather permitting!

lol @MacApple. I dunno about getting the iPad 3, considering I have the 2, but I'll think it over! TBH, I never noticed the comparatively low-res screen of the iPad 2 to be an issue.

Went to local Apple store today @javooooo, crazy. Time to find more high res images. Back to setting up BT server. Speak soon all.

Did you buy the iPad 3?

I pre-ordered but I don't know when it will get here.

Speaking of high res images- do we just need to ensure the DPI is high enough? Because, if I try to use a graphic that is larger, it just shows up zoomed in. Ideas?

Nope, almost. House needs money this month, played with it is all. Friends with some of the ninjas down there. Want to work on that store part time.

So when we make new images do we call them [email protected]?

Wait.... all images can be named using the technique above as high res? Fark. I feel stupid. I thought that only worked for the /bt_art graphics.

no, I think that we now need the ~ipad@2x at the end. Image.png - iPhone 3Gs < [email protected] - iPhone 4 > Image~ipad - iPad 2 < Image~ipad@2x - iPaf 3 >

Oh.. but does that naming scheme work for all graphics? ie, for graphics in BT_images?

Here are some guidelines for high resolution ipads and iphonse. https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/ipad/#documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/MobileHIG/IconsImages/IconsImages.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40006556-CH14-SW1 Br Stefan

Question regarding iCall and phone without a sim.card. If you use Skype Wifi calling, are you using the telephony hardware? Basically if it works with Skype should it work? Fred